Anything else is a waste of time when you could be "training. Quoted: Quoted: I've noticed the newer "gun people" aren't really gun people. Quoted: Knowing how to operate a revolver is kinda like knowing how to adjust spark and timing on an old magneto engine.
Type of STD coyotes get. Quoted: Right--everyone who does those other things is a "Fudd. Quoted: Spoken like a millennial know-it-all. Forgive my assumption if you're not a millennial. Quoted: Can you imagine Jeff Cooper in the age of Youtube?
I enjoy reading his stuff but he was a crank. And Jeff was only a light colonel, Tim was a full Kentucky Colonel, so, military courtesy being what it is and all, I'm afraid we have to insist on the formalities. Elmer rocked love his books. Quoted: Elmer rocked love his books. Quoted: He'd probably just get lost in the noise.
I've got absolutely nothing against Tim and I enjoy his channel a lot, but some of these older guys were on a whole other level. Quoted: Type of STD coyotes get. Quoted: Mr. I think we had a class on this in the Army. Quoted: Shame a lot of younger guys didn't read his stuff along with other writers like Skeeter Skelton and Tom Ferguson, back when there was no internet and and you actually read magazines and books.
Anyone remember Chuck Taylor? Quoted: Quoted: Spoken like a millennial know-it-all. Quoted: He knows what goes into a good carry View Quote HellifIknow.
View Quote I have that gun. It's purty. ETA: Wait, moonclips? HellifIknow Attached File. View Quote I'd like to subscribe to your newsletter. The poor revolver. View Quote But other than that, and bring a former Marine, who is he? I started reading gun rags in the 70's before he came on the national scene.
But the old timers were still going strong. He came on strong and fast in the 90's out of no where. I never warmed up to him. To the point l never read his articles. He's half the reason l stopped my decades long subscription to Guns And Ammo. And skipped his articles when he started working for American Rifleman. I have no idea what makes him an "expert". View Quote I've noticed the newer "gun people" aren't really gun people.
View Quote Shame a lot of younger guys didn't read his stuff along with other writers like Skeeter Skelton and Tom Ferguson, back when there was no internet and and you actually read magazines and books.
I've noticed the newer "gun people" aren't really gun people. Knowing how to operate a revolver is kinda like knowing how to adjust spark and timing on an old magneto engine. You're not cool unless you only buy ARs and 9mm Glocks.
Right--everyone who does those other things is a "Fudd. If you say so. View Quote Spoken like a millennial know-it-all. View Quote He'd probably just get lost in the noise. O'Connor though I think he would have absolutely loved the 6. View Quote I agree..
I think the internet changed that forever I read Guns and Ammo back in the 80's Were any of them really that much of an SME on all things guns? A few were pretty good, but the rest, just had the opportunity to get there hands on and shoot a wide variety of guns most of us would never get the chance..
If I get the chance to shoot a new pistol for a few days and put rds thru it, does it make me an expert on it? Do I have enough time with it to recommend it to strangers? The problem I always had was the majority of them rarely ran into a gun they hated or that did not work.
The R Remington would most likely have been a stunning success if it came out in Like all things, they had there time How much teaching did Wiley Clapp do in his career? A lot of the Gun writers back then were not teaching Mil perhaps Hell, I can do that.
View Quote Me too. Once, about three or four days later I saw him for about 20 minutes in the back part of the range standing there, never did he participate in the class or pick up a shotgun. I'm sure somewhere out there is an article written by him describing the use of shotguns in a tactical environment. Quoted: In I was attending the tactical shotgun class at Gunsite. Quoted: Wiley Clapp? Sounds like an STD.
Quoted: Wiley Clapp is tier 2. My dad just bought a Wiley Clapp and it's pretty nice and shoots great. Probably one of the few Colt s I'd buy on purpose. Quoted: Picked it up in Shanghai back in ' That was some baaaad shit.
I was taking shots 6 times a day for four weeks to get rid of it. View Quote View All Quotes. Quoted: Quoted: Wiley Clapp? Quoted: Observational reporting Quoted: Quoted: snip.
He wrote the Gun Digest book of the 9mm. There should be some fapping going on about now. Kids, when there was a desert of gun information, then came Wiley He wrote one article on how many calibers he could get to shoot from a , I wish I had it it was dozens, He is in the line with Elmer Keith and friends. True Wiley Clapp revolvers are noticeable from first sight.
If you don't know who this guy was, by the way, revolvers aren't your thing. I say this not because he is some badass, but only because it seems like every gun maker is making some revolver with his name on it. There are 's out there as well. I feel he is overrated. Now, if you truly want a legendary revolver from a real man that made impact in the revolver world, look up Gerald Fitz.
Didn't you guys read any gun magazines when you were kids? Or were you just enthralled with the Sears catalog? I'm always surprised by these threads, but encouraged Wiley Clapp is an old school gunwriter. Nothing really special. Some folks agree with his idea of what makes for a good fighting pistol.
I agree with him in a lot of areas, and I love my 21st Century Commander. Fucking kids these days I've never been able to get a fix on what made him such an authority. At least with Jeff Cooper and Elmer Keith you can see some rationale behind folks being interested in what they have to say. Quoted: True Wiley Clapp revolvers are noticeable from first sight. Wiley Clapp revolvers. Nothing groundbreaking or original. When it comes to Colts Talo tends to be more cosmetic, WC are almost always s70 and with better fit and trigger jobs they've usually been massaged by the custom shop rather than cerakoted and getting a new set of grips.
Quoted: I'm always surprised by these threads, but encouraged Also I'm a thirty year old 2nd gen cop. Been shooting since I was five and my first bought with my own cash gun was a pristine Israeli Mauser in. Read all the gun rags from the 80s and 90s and Wiley Clapp doesn't ring a bell nor does my father know of him and he's been into shooting since the late s. He was a revolver shooter snd competed in the PPC matchez back in the day when he wasn't working as a patrolman and later a Special Agent.
Quoted: I've never been able to get a fix on what made him such an authority. He is obviously a better business man or marketer than all the other hot shots.
He's making money off his name a cool sounding name and makes some nice looking pistols. Sum's it up? Quoted: Glad I ain't the only one who hasn't heard of the guy. Quoted: Quoted: Who the hell is Wiley Clapp? I remember reading his stuff on and off over the years.
Lots of good stuff available pre-internet Its one reason I enjoy Arfcom so much. So much info and opinion, lotsa funny and some serious.. You younger guys should remember that us older sorts didnt have what you make use of everyday, the web. We had gun mags that came out maybe monthly, and they were mostly efforts to get you to want and buy the "latest and greatest" product. What passed for "common knowledge" was laughable, now.
OK rant off, just zoning cause tomorrows my 60th birthday. Ol Scruff is not old, but he can see it from here. Quoted: I remember reading his stuff on and off over the years.
Quoted: It depends on the gun really. On my GP, the cylinder is a different design, it is cut for Novak sights which ruger doesn't do any dovetailed sights on the 3" GP , and a couple other bits and bobs. Shoots freaking great btw. Quoted: Quoted: And are they like Talo guns where it is just cosmetic, or have they have custom shop type work done on them? I am kind of old and have never heard of him. My dad worked with him back in the day. Quoted: Wow. I really like that.
Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: And are they like Talo guns where it is just cosmetic, or have they have custom shop type work done on them? There isn't much out there that I "have" to have from his offerings, but this Colt is definitely one of my favorite pistols in the safe. It's just done right! Honestly I didn't know or really care who the guy is.
I just knew he was a name associated with special offering Colts. Jelly Bryce. Quoted: Quoted: I'm always surprised by these threads, but encouraged So far from what I've heard of Mr. Clapp, I'm now waiting for the limited edition Dick Metcalf
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